Repeal the 8th Ammendment

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/doctors-told-they-can-withdraw-life-support-for-clinically-dead-pregnant-woman-30863340.html







All of the case raised so many questions as to how to best judge the situation. There are so many twists and turns that its impossible for anyone to judge what should happen, the old adage doctors differ and patients die here could be replaced with the mantra that legal teams differ and patients die such is the intensity of the legal wrangling that goes back and forth. Legally there are two problems at hand with these judgements - time and a problem with the law, human rights law especially being extremeley abstract. During the time this case was being heard, the womans life machine was left on resulting in massive infections and organs failing on an extreme level, notwithstanding the details reported in the media which I'll refrain from mentioning. As for the law being abstract, all of it is so open ended from the interpretation of the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Act 2013 to the human rights law on the topic, nothing is clear on the topic giving doctors and those within the medical profession more and more confusion delaying matters.
HSE guidelines must also be ammended to clarify positions when and how a termination can be carried out to lesser the burden on doctors. A doctors job is to treat patients, it is not to argue philosophically over aiding a foetus when the mothers life takes precedence, any other faulty position stems from the catholic ethos the medical profession has been unduly placed under.
Women suffer unfairly under the 8th Ammendment, this law places equality on the life of a foetus, a group of cells that has not attained any degree of personhood on parity with that of an adult woman, most of whom can think for themselves, fully autonomous human beings. Numerous falsehoods are contained within that eight ammendment as well, creating this weird boundary where were a foetus to poison a woman and dehabilitate her nothing is to be done but if it kills the mother then it can be. The falsehood is in the interprtation that is taken by the conservative element of Ireland still in existence. Ireland only brought in the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Act 2013 when A,B,C vs Ireland was referred to Ireland and this forced Irelands hand. Nothing to be proud of.
#Repealthe8th and stop the impasse....

Is Sinn Fein pro life?

Oh holy bearded one, what stance should we take on abortion? Adams is clear when he came out April to proclaim that Sinn Fein are not a pro abortion party. This was in response to mutterings by Brian Walsh (who??) a Fine Gael TD on the subject of the X Legislaiton.

http://www.thejournal.ie/gerry-adams...89619-Apr2013/

Today Fine Gael TD Brian Walsh, in a very mischievous way, misrepresented Sinn Féin’s position. Sinn Féin is not a pro-abortion party,”

   

McGuinness a few days before hand on an interview with Radio 1 had also maintained a similar position.

http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-a...68416-Apr2013/

We are not a pro-abortion party and to suggest that is to totally and absolutely misrepresent the position

   

We neednt beat around the bush here....Sinn Fein do support legislating for X but have stopped full short of supporting the full emancipation of women to do what they want with their bodies.

Did Pearse Doherty show flashes of being a pro lifer?

http://tomasoflatharta.com/2010/12/0...-fein-a-lifer/


Now lets look at the flip side of the coin ....the history of some Shinners....


http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-28952185.html

Dessie Ellis has rubbished claims that he is linked to 50 or so called murders that the British establishment are claiming he may be linked to . Ellis was arrested for being in possession of electronic remote-controlled devices in Dublin in 1981.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/IRA...196837271.html

The family of a man shot dead in front of his three-year-old son by the IRA has slammed a Sinn Fein award to the getaway driver in the bank raid in which he died.

Eamon Ryan was just 32 when he was murdered by the IRA during the 1979 robbery at a bank in Waterford.

Now his family have publicly criticised Sinn Fein’s decision to award driver Bill Hayes in recognition of his services to Irish freedom.

   

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/...clouds-sinn-fe

Sinn Fein's by-election win in Mid-Ulster has been marred by acrimony, after the victor was accused of being a suspect in the murder of the runner-up's father.

Unionist parties had joined together to put up a single candidate, Nigel Lutton, who succeeded in increasing the unionist vote to 34% in yesterday's by-election.

But he refused to shake the hand of Francis Molloy - formerly deputy Speaker in the Northern Ireland Assembly - who is alleged to have been a member of the IRA unit which shot dead Lutton's father Frederick, a police officer, in 1979.

   

So with all this in mind....where does this pro life stance apply? Is it arbitary?